My problem with the Trinity is not that I can’t plug into the paradigm and make sense of it within the pseudo-logical(imo) framework created for it. I just dont think it fits the whole context of the scriptures.
There is a difference between a cloud of unknowing and a different paradigm based on another way of putting the building blocks together- but the kids just keep throwing those blocks at each other and there is so much blood spilled LOLOLOL
Oddly enough, to me the Trinity is based on a huge cloud of unknowing, since it requires the acceptance of a sort of illogical(for those outside the cloud) statement of a supposed fact, for which a person is supposed to set aside their reason, and the normal meaning of words to accept a construct that might not make sense because it is not-sensible rather than because it is mystical…but I understand the perspective from which Trinitarians view the scriptures on it, and I have no problem with the Trinity as a viewpoint, as long as it isnt represented as a soteriological absolute.
Also, as far as discussing this, there is the common sense issue of leavng room for ones own potential error on a subject over which learned and devoted men of spirit have disagreed for at least 1700 years, and avoiding the error of hammering down dubious authority on verses that can be interpreted with some diversity and also prioritized differently.
As far as I am concerned all one must believe about Jesus as He relates to the Father, is that He is the only begotten Son, of the One True God, YHWH, born of a virgin, who lived a sinless life, died as a propitiation for sin, was raised on the third day, ascended above all heavens as Lord of the Universe, and that in order to be “in Him” we must follow Him- and He will raise us up.
I disagree with Trinarians about the co-equality of the Son( and maybe the co-eternity), I disagree with Unitarians about the pre-existence of the Son(He created all things and had glory with the Father, so He pre-existed), Modalists I disagree with just on principle because their attitude is so obnoxious (LOL jus kiddin), Are there still any Bi-nitarians?