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Church of England Articles allowed Universalism in 1563

Thanks Drew - bless you.

That’s a lovely quotation you’ve posted - and how fortunate that the book has come into your hands. I reckon Matthew Parker is a man after your own heart Drew - and good for you. Also Parker was happily married, as you are happily married. Elizabeth for some reason, although a Protestant, was still a private believer in celibate clergy (especially Bishops). She rated Parker so much that she forgave him his marriage (that was big of her!).

I don’t know whether you know this but Parker left his entire library of 600 plus manuscripts to Caius College Cambridge where they still reside with additions, and the Parker Library is in the process of being put online. So any expert opinion we may seek about Parker could first be addressed to the current Parker Librarian

Will continue to produce stuff after Christmas and you can catch up on reading it ‘as and when’. There is no rush to get expert opinions - or anything else.

Love to you and your wife - and don’t work too hard over Christmas (I know that’s a ‘busman’s holiday’ for a Rev.)

Dick

Hi –

While I’m still thinking through ‘the big stuff’ about the suppression of the 42nd Article I can do some quick post to deal with related issues. This post is about the service for the Burial of the Dead in the Book of Common Prayer. Eamon Duffy writes of the reception of this service in Elizabethan England -

“…It was in many ways a starkly reformed service, speaking much of predestination, “beseeching thee, that it may please thee to accomplish the number of thy elect”. Yet it required the minister to declare of everyone he buried that they died “in sure and certain hope” of salvation. Were all the dead elect? The godly answered with an emphatic no, and godly ministers were increasingly unwilling to read over the bodies of drunkards, adulterers, or the merely mediocre words of hope and rejoicing for their deliverance, words that asserted and assumed their salvation. As Richard Baxter put it, “It is confusion perilous to the living that we assume that all we bury be of one sort, viz., elect and saved: when contrarily, we see multitudes die without any signs of repentance as rational charity can judge sincere.” (R. Baxter, Reliquiae Baxterianae, 1696, part II, p. 315). .Yet James Pilkington, Elizabethan Bishop of Durham, commenting on the rights of the dead, declared that the comely using of these in God’s church is a great comfort to all Christians, and the want of them a token of God’s wrath and plague.” (The Works of James Pilkington, ed. J. Schofield, Parker Society, 1842, pp. 317-18). This was the view of the average English parishioner too, and they would permit no predestinarain scruples on the part of ministers to abbreviate or truncate those rites. Insistence on the due performance of this and the other rites of passage became a frequent bone of contention between traditionally minded parishioners and Protestant clergy.” (E. Duffy, The Stripping of Altars; Traditional Religion in England 1400-1580, p. 590 London, 1992)

‘Duffys book argues controversially that the common people of England did not initially see the Reformation as liberation. Indeed, they were very reluctant to relinquish the old religion of England with its rites and ceremonies although with the second generation of people brought up in Reformation England the old religion of the country did in fact die out. A Catholic historian, he has managed to get the backs up of both Protestant historians of the Reformation and Anglo Catholic historians – if he’s that challenging he can’t be all bad.

I think the passage I have quoted above can be considered apart from the more controversial thesis of the book. The passage suggests to me that the logic of the Prayer Book service – at least the poetic logic – is actually Universalist: everyone who is buried has sure and certain hope of salvation, and everyone who is buried is therefore numbered among God’s elect (I’ve read the service carefully and I agree with Duffy on this). I presume this ‘logic’ originates from a moderate Evangelical concern to remain on the sidelines about exactly who will be numbered among the elect. However, along with the abrogation of the 42nd article it seems another historical factor that makes the Anglican tradition open to Universalism.

I note that the Service for the Burial of the Dead comes from Cranmer’s 1552 version of the Prayer Book. The Elizabethan prayer book of 1559 contained some minor revisions – including the revisions of Cranmer’s 42 articles – but none, that I know of, to the Burial Service. I am not claiming that Cranmer was a Universalist – far from it. I am merely claiming that because of the indiscriminate assurance the service provides it has a Universalist ‘poetic logic’ (when people are gathered at a funeral service they are affected at a powerful emotional level rather than a rational/doctrinal one.
Apologies for typo in previous post – ‘right’ = ‘rite’

All the best

Dick

Hi Dick,
Thanks, interesting stuff. I agree there is a universalist “poetic logic” to the burial service - as in all the modern funeral services I’m aware of. Perhaps this is because it is in stark pastoral situations that the absurdity of the hell doctrine is most obvious :slight_smile: . Of Duffy’s thesis:

I think he’s more or less right. Although I think the “old religion” never went away altogether. It certainly came back pretty easily with the 19thC Oxford Movement and the rise of Anglo Catholicism. The CofE has always been a broad church.

Couldn’t agree more :slight_smile:

I don’t usually put on my big pointy hat, but if RevDrew hasn’t reassured you enough Sobor, allow me as one of the Big Three admins to reassure you that I am 100% in favor of your posting so far. :smiley:

I very much appreciate the careful, sober and self-critical historical analysis you’ve been offering in this thread, on an obscure topic, and I strenuously doubt any of the other ad/mods (among whom is Drew, nowadays) have or would have a problem with it either.

Thank you for all the work, and feel free to continue as you get the time. I assure you, if we think there’s a problem we’ll let you know. :mrgreen:

Thanks Jason -

Good to hear from you: D . That’s very kind of you. I feel most reassured by you and by Drew. Will continue to post as and when I get time - and will continue to be self critical .

I read the thread on the Athanasian Creed - to which you are the main contributor - too late :frowning: You’ve really explained all the critical issues with wonderful clarity - I’ve been stumbling trying to understand these of late myself because I keep bumping into them during research on Drew’s topic. And I needn’t have bothered!

I only note that you’ve said at some point on the 42nd Article thread that you wish you could have been a fly on the wall when the Episcopalian’s dropped the Nicene and Athanasian creeds from their 1801 prayer book. I did stumble across the reasons for this, quite by accident, and will do a post when I have a moment - if you’d like that.

A very merry Christmas to you -

Dick

Yes, very much interested, thanks! :smiley:

Hi Drew and hi Jason -

I haven’t forgotten about my entirely self imposed promise to you both. I’ve done more research on both issues - the suppression of the 42nd Article, and the non-inclusion of the Athanasian creed in the Episcopalian prayer book of 1801 (and another interesting topic regarding when, in the 1860’s, the Athanasian creed was use to charge an Anglican clergyman who had written tentatively in defence of Universalism with heresy (he was found guilty but acquitted on appeal).

In fact I’ve done all my research and am just taking respite to ponder - I’ve learnt some very interesting stuff which has given me new slants on some things.

Also - it was a bit weird joining this site and posting without knowing my way round it or getting to know people first; so just want to concentrate on this for a couple of weeks longer (then I’ll feel less self conscious and needy when I start posting my informal research - and I’ll only do this in small bits).

Finally this is the first time I’ve ever been a posting person - having to learn the etiquette and the language of emoticons etc - and I may be an egghead but am slightly dyslexic so have to acclimatise myself.

A very good site you have here - you should be proud of yourselves.

Dick

In the meantime - any specific questions, please ask. :slight_smile:

Some brilliant stuff in this thread. Keep it coming. :slight_smile:

Thanks for all your work on this, Dick. I’m looking forward to hearing what you’ve discovered!

Och well - I’d better get my act togther then :slight_smile:

Hi Drew – and all readers of this thread (I’m amazed at your perseverance! :laughing: ). I think I’m ready to set things down now – this is not an exact work of scholarship so there is no need for me to be scrupulous with referencing etc. – because I’d take forever to write it up and none of you would read it anyway!!! So I’ll keep things fairly informal - you are my audience , no one else is! However I think I can now sketch out my conclusions about the abrogation of the 42nd article from the fairly diligent research I have done; I think you can trust me about 95% of the time now (although I’m open to correction on matters of detail). I no longer think we require getting other academics, real academics, involved – for reasons that I will describe later. For those reading this thread for the first time – and with the staying power produced by a genuine interest in the subject matter – I refer you to an earlier post I made summarising the arguments of D.P. Walker in ‘The Decline of Hell’ as essential background reading; it’s very useful for you to grasp the meaning and the consequences of ‘magisterial Protestantism’ for example.
To begin I want to summarise the views of Anglican Clergymen in the past about the importance of the abrogation of the 42nd article for the Universalist cause (I’ve added to my earlier posts, but the stuff that I reproduce here it’s worth reading again to pick up the thread of a dormant argument)

The Abrogation of the 42nd

I have reflected on the context and meaning of the suppression of the 42nd Article a little more. The entry on the 39 Articles in the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (p.1622) tells me that “Subscription to the 39 Articles has never been required of any but the clergy and until the nineteenth century, members of the universities of Oxford and Cambridge. From 1865 the clergy were only required to affirm… them as agreeable to the Word of God and undertake not to teach in contradiction of them… Since 1975 they have been required simply to Articles as one of the historic formularies of the C of E which bear witness to the faith revealed in the scripture and set forth in the catholic creeds”.

It strikes me from all of this that through the centuries of the C of E’s existence, those who have been primarily concerned with pondering the meaning and implications of the Articles have been clergy and scholars. All will have been educated to some degree in the history of the Anglican Church and thus most will have know of the abrogation of the Forty Second Article from Edward IV’s Prayer Book. Yes, the 39 Articles do not positively allow the teaching of Universal Salvation but knowledge of the abrogation/suppression of the 42nd Article condemning universalism must have caused many Anglican clergy through the ages to pause for thought. And Drew, it is such an notable, striking thing to an Anglican who has embraced Universalism that I’m not surprised that others have arrived at the same conclusions as you in the past, and independent of each other (it’s almost a sort of ‘cloud of witness’)

First example I’ve found is from George Rust, formerly Dean of Conor and later Bishop of Dromore, and a younger associate of the Cambridge Platonists, in A Letter of Resolution Concerning Origen and the chief of his opinions’ (published under a pseudonym in 1661)

**I would fain know why she (i.e. The Church of England) who in her 39 Articles does so punctually (i.e. exactly) follow the Articles agreed upon in King Edward’s Days, or with little variation, should wholly omit that Article which condemns the Restorers (i.e. the exponents) of this opinion, if she had thought it ought to be condemned’ **

Second example is Andrew Jukes from The Second Death and the Restitution of All Things, 1867. I’ve seen some conflicting versions of his story but the consensus appears to be that he was ordained in the Church of England but was suspended and left over disagreement with the authorities about Infant Baptism. He went on to found an independent church and was friendly with Darby of the Plymouth Brethren (decidedly not a Universalist) and Samuel Cox the Baptist Universalist. When he published ‘Restitution’ he lost a lot of his congregation in protest and eventually came back to the Church of England as an Anglo Catholic – although he never took holy orders again. In Restitution he wrote -

It ought not to be forgotten also, that our English Church , having in her original Forty-two Articles had a Forty-first, declaring of “Millenarians,” that they “cast themselves headlong into a Jewish dotage,” and a Forty-second, asserting, that “All men shall not be saved at length,” within a very few years, in Elizabeth 's reign, struck out both these Articles. Surely this is not without its significance. The Creeds, which are received both by East and West, not only make no mention whatever of endless punishment, but in their declaration of “the forgiveness of sins” seem to teach a very different doctrine.

Third example is Frederic William Farrar from ‘Eternal Hope: Five Sermons Preached in Westminster Abbey. November and December, 1877’. Farrar was Dean of Westminster Abbey and although other Anglicans before him had expounded on the theme of Hopeful Universalism – notably Tillotson who was Archbishop of Canterbury in the late seventeenth century in a Christmas Day sermon preached to Queen Mary, the wife of William III –Farrar was the first to preach a hopeful (but not certain) Universalism to a wider public, and his sermons were published and sold out in five editions rapidly. He wrote/preached that –

For ten years indeed (1552 -1561) a Forty Second Article condemned Universalism; but for Universalism (that is ‘certain’ Universalism) I have not pleaded, and, more-over, even that Article was struck out with the consent of the Bishops and Clergy of both Houses and Provinces. TO say that it was struck out because the Anabaptists were no longer prominent is simply an unsupported conjecture. The conjecture may be true, but even if so I look on the elimination of the Article as distinctly overruled by a watchful Providence; since it is the province of the Church to decide only in matters of faith, and no church has a right to legislate in those matters of opinion on which wise and holy men have, in all ages, been content to differ, seeing that we have no indisputable voice of Revelation to guide our conclusions respecting them.
Fourth and last is the Rev. Professor Michael Screech – Anglican Priest and notable scholar of the Renaissance – writing in his ’Laughter at the Foot of the Cross’

**Some think of the Christian revelation as above all a deposit dutifully guarded by an infallible man, institution, or church. Others see the revelation of the fullness of Christ’s truth as primarily a winding road, leading members of a fallible church –however fitfully – towards a deepening understanding of divine truth, justice and mercy. Christian truth may be at any time revealed – in his own way and in his own choosing – by the risen Christ. Christ is the Logos, the Living Word, the very idea of right-reason. He approaches man and addresses him in ways he can understand. It may all seem very mundane. The Logos does not smother the personality of those whom he chooses to address, but he does expect to elicit a response. One response has been a quiet rejection – despite Fathers and Councils and encyclicals and synods – of the notion of a celestial Belsen where wretches suffer infinite and everlasting torment, partly in order to add to the joy of the elect. When in 1553 the church under Edward VI drew up the Forty-two Articles, the forty second read: All men shall not be saved at length. Edward died almost at once and those articles were immediately abrogated under Queen Mary. The forty second was never restored under Elizabeth. So the church left the universalism of Origen an open question. Origen (the favourite theologian of Erasmus) held that, in the end, all rational creatures will be saved: all mankind, and even all devils. The Church, by never restoring Edward’s forty second article, leaves the door of God’s redeeming power wide open: all of us may be eventually saved. If so there will be no human beings left in hell to laugh at…’ **

I note here the references; to Origen for whom Christ perceived in his fullness is Logos /Wisdom – i.e. that which will hold all things together in balance in the fullness of time; to Erasmus, the Christian Humanist and Catholic reformer who revered Origen above Augustine, and was a profound influence – at least in his rhetoric of moderation – on the English Reformers; and to the horrendous idea derived from Tertullian, that Farrar rightly termed the ‘damnable doctrine’, that the elect in heaven would enjoy great voyeuristic pleasure from watching and scoffing at the torments of the damned (Screech goes on to point out the sheer wickedness of the logical conclusion of Augustinian fundamentalists in all sections of the Church on this socre – that since un-baptised/unsaved babies are damned, the elect can also look forward to laughing at their torments. Finally Screech suggests that Fredric William Farrar should be remembered as a ‘Merciful Doctor’ of the Church.

All the best (and thanks for your patience)

Dick

So let’s start the rolling – you will note that in some arrears I have substantially revised my opinions since earlier posts due to my recent studies. I must say, in the light of recent scholarly research in to primary sources, that some of the conclusions drawn by the Marxist historian Christopher Hill in the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies – especially in his essay on Universalism in ‘The World Turned Upside Down’ - now seem very dated. I note this because Louise Hickman cites him as a reliable source in ‘The World Turned Upside Down’; but it appears to me that he was often driven more by Marxist theory than attention to the evidence. Anyway, it’s a side issue – but his essay certainly did lead me up the garden path initially and I may have cause to refer to it later. (No offence is intended to Louise Hickman – studies in the secret history of universalism are still in their infancy which is why we all need to keep talking to each other)
The political context of the Thirty Nine Articles

With the death of the Catholic Queen Mary I (‘Bloody Mary’) her Protestant sister Elizabeth ascended the throne, lauded as the ‘new Deborah’ just as her little Protestant brother Edward who had ruled before Mary had been lauded as the ‘new Josiah’. Elizabeth was in a difficult situation and was not fully confident of her position until late in her reign after the defeat o the Spanish Armada when she finally became ‘Gloriana Virginia,’ the Virgin Queen beloved by her people. At first she had to play different parties off against each other in order to survive, and also take care not to offend continental Princes of various religious sympathies so as to keep open the prospect of a marriage match and build defensive alliances on the basis of this guessing game. She also had to cope with religious pluralism and the need to prevent the sectarian violence that was all too common on the Continent.

‘Bloody’ Mary had revived English Catholicism with persecuting zeal, but there was a lot of support for Mary, especially in the North of England, which had not waned – and Elisabeth was aware of this. It seems that Elizabeth – although she was not bothered about people having Catholic sensibilities in terms of liturgy and worship - hoped that old style Catholicism would die out within a generation; but she was too canny to force the issue

Under Edward the English Reformation had been chiefly influenced by the Lutheran tradition and by Christian Humanism (Elizabeth’s tutor Roger Ascham was a Christina Humanist and when she was young she had translated work by Erasmus from English into Latin); and it was with this broad tradition of moderate Protestantism that Elizabeth identified. However, during the persecutions of Mary, many English Protestants had fled to Geneva and returned as Calvinists. And they returned with the hope and zeal for complete Reform of the Church. Elizabeth had no time for them and made a habit of offending them by swearing ‘By God’s Soul!’ in their company. Of course they wanted the Church of England to be governed by elected committees of Elders independent of the monarch, which was anathema to Elizabeth who appointed her own bishops to govern the Church. Loathe them she might – but she also had to keep them on board.

In the 1530’s a group of millenarian Anabaptist had taken over Munster on the continent. For two years, from (1533-1535) it had been governed by their ‘Messianic King’ John of Leydon (a sort of David Koresh - of Waco fame - figure). He had imposed both communism and polygamy on the people and ruled with great cruelty, especially towards women who would not comply with polygamy, or who were found guilty of adultery. Whether it is appropriate to call these people Anabaptists is debatable; they had nothing in common with the mainstream Scriptural and Spiritual Anabaptist traditions – but perhaps mainstream Anabaptists learnt from the Munster example of the dangers of confusing the Kingdom of God with the Kingdoms of Men. The Messianic Kingdom of Munster was ended with enormous and revolting cruelty by a Catholic army that had found common cause with the Lutherans. The aftershock of Munster created fear in a generation of Magisterial Protestants, and persuaded them to sully all Anabaptists with the memory of the Messianic Kingdom. It seems that by Elizabeth’s time this fear was on the wane (indeed there is little evidence of their being many Anabaptists in England during her reign – more of this later),. Certainly the Anabaptist threat no longer seemed apriority with all of the other juggling that needed to be done to accommodate people in one Church of England.

This is the political situation in which the 39 articles were formulated and it is to these articles that I will address myself next.

I must say I am absolutely loving all this information!

As a result of this thread, I have also been looking into the Anglican (Episcopalian) church and while talking with many Episcopalian clergy on the subject, I have discovered that UR is something that is perfectly acceptable today to hold and MANY members/clergy have been believers in UR over the centuries. I have no references to establish that, I am strictly going by what I was told by some various clergy. Mind you, not all believe it and take UR as heresy. However from what I can tell (don’t quote me on this), UR as heresy is not something that is outright taught and is left open to the individual believer.

Sorry if this is repeating anything already said or obvious but again, thanks to this thread, I have learned quite allot!

Thank you. :smiley:

Two very helpful posts there Dick, thanks very much for piecing all this together. Its helpful to know why the anabaptists were seen as such a threat. Interested in your emphasis on Elizabeth I as a canny politician. Her faith was important to her to though, I think, and Matthew Parker (Bucer’s protegé?) a strong influence on her from her. Anyway, waiting for your next instalment with baited breath!

What a lovely and encouraging response :smiley: . I’ve been meaning to nail this one for some time. God willing – I’ll do it all this week with a few instalments each day. And keep up the encouragement and/or questions please to support me in this – and I’ll buy you all a beer one day!

1Cor1522 – what’s your actual name? That is so good to know that this is of benefit to you. Will come on later in the week to why the Creed Of Athanasius was dropped from the revised Prayer Book of the Episcopalian Church in 1801; it is very relevant to our theme and may also shed some light on why a section of the Episcopalian Church today is less likely to accommodate Universalism – although on the whole the Episcopalian Church is ultra-Liberal compared with the Anglican Church in the UK (but I for one don’t equate Universalism with Liberalism – no way; it can properly be a Conservative option too).

Ok Drew – we go for the white knuckle ride then? In the posts that immediately follow I will have cause to say more about Elizabeth’s faith – which was genuine, but not Universalist I think, at least not as you and I would think of Universalism (I’ve revised my picture of her slightly from the rose tinted vision I had of her at first – probably half remembered from ‘Look and Learn’ educational comics when I was a child!); of the influence of gentle, sweet tempered Matthew Parker – who may have been a Universalist (we can make a case for it but I think it is impossible to prove); and of the influence of Bucer, which was real, but I think more marginal than we originally assumed. Whatever, as early as Richard Hooker in the 1580s we have proper evidence of hopeful universalism from a key figure of the Anglican tradition. I think we will never know for certain exactly why the 42nd article was abrogated – for reasons I will explain - but along with Canon Frederic Farrar we can put it down to Divine Providence, and certainly see this Providence working itself out in the history of Anglicanism as it gradually became a fully tolerant and non-persecuting Church.

I don’t normally give my name out online out of old habit. However my name is Paul. I just use 1Cor1522 in reference to one of my fave passages in the Bible. :smiley: