Thanks for sharing. Its not that the damnation doctrine is important to believers, but it is important to believers to follow sound biblical doctrine.The bible warns of false teachers in the body of Christ and their judgment (1Timothy;2 Timothy; 2 Peter chapter 2; Jude, etc) I notice you keep using the unbiblical word "Purgatory"..I wander where that came from( RCC) Anyway, look forward to healthy and respectful conversations.
JasonPratt wrote:Thanks for the intro, Sherman!
Not all of us are specifically missionaries (though some are--one of our mods is or was a longtime missionary to the Middle East, Iraq and Syria if I recall correctly), so it'll be interesting to hear some stories from the front line there. (Even if your mission field isn't literally the front line in other ways. )
Most of us here disagree with one another on various things--sometimes at length --but currently only three or four are disagreeable about their disagreements (so to speak). We won't ban anyone just for holding a belief, but the admins and mods (myself included) are rather on edge at the moment due to those people and attitudes.
As long as you don't demonize the motives of non-universalists, though, you should be okay. As A37 notes, typically they're just trying to protect from what they consider not only false doctrine but false doctrine with unspeakably hopeless and terrifying consequences if promoted. (I've met I think only one non-universalist personally who was gung-ho on the notion that we should be glad those damned non-elect are going to fry and not be wimpy about having pity on them. He was a Calvinist, as you might have guessed; also not someone who posts on this board. But most Calvs I've met don't go that far.)
The site owners would prefer for the forum to be a place for technical discussion, not for venting, or trying to score rhetorical points--whether to amuse yourself or in order to 'provoke' discussion or otherwise. We're usually pretty lenient even about that, but as noted we're a bit on edge right now.
Sherman wrote:As I've shared my change in beliefs with others, I've been suprised at the fear it has uncovered in others and the vehemenance with which I've been attacked.
Aaron37 wrote:There are no gray areas of doctrine with God..it is either true or false.
JasonPratt wrote:You're welcome, Sherman. No harm no foul yet. Just wanted to head off any potential problems at the pass.
Meanwhile, since I couldn't remember or find where I had posted a discussion on the topic, I went ahead and (possibly re-)posted a brief discussion of whether and to what extent "purgatory" is an "unbiblical" term, and where it comes from.
(Not that deriving the word from a biblical use of a biblical term should be important to any believer in, say, THE TRINITY such as myself... )
SLJ wrote:Hi Sherman,
I've enjoyed your posts so far and was wondering about you, so I appreciate the detailed intro.
I've had this experience, too. And it's not an uncommon experience for people beginning to believe in UR. One would think people would be excited about the very possibility, but instead the idea is met with unreasoning fear and violent rejection.
"Certainty of Damnation for Others" is a great label. A doctrine so important to many Christians should have a proper name. CDO for short, LOL.
you said: I do not classify someone who teaches what they believe to be true, though it is erroneous, to be "false teachers". And I certainly do not classify others who believe differently than I do as false teachers, though I believe their doctrine is in error.
Aaron: You might not, but God certainly does. There are no gray areas of doctrine with God..it is either true or false. God does not agree to disagree like we do on doctrine, Sherman. People might be sincere with their doctrine and teachings, but if they are not teaching truth..they are sincerly teaching false doctrine. Look forward to our discussions.
Sherman wrote:I look forward to getting to know you better bro.
JasonPratt wrote:Sherman wrote:I look forward to getting to know you better bro.
You too! Don't forget to share some mission stories with us if you can!
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