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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby steve7150 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:46 am

Which just says that communistic, capitalistic and socialistic systems - can all allow competition, making money and becoming rich. Without the need, to change the particular system.








You are encouraged by me to present your opinions on Zombies or economic systems or anything else & i don't care if you or anyone agree with me or not. We all seem to have this need to have our opinions validated by others but i'm aware of this and trying to get past it.
Again a communist system by definition doesn't allow competition, so China & Germany are mixed systems with the private sectors being the area the creates new stuff. Most communist systems have evolved by necessity to be blended systems of communism and capitalism like Vietnam,China & Russia but there are still relics left like Cuba and North Korea. Venezeula & Bolivia seem to be solidly socialistic.
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:49 am

steve7150 wrote:Which just says that communistic, capitalistic and socialistic systems - can all allow competition, making money and becoming rich. Without the need, to change the particular system.

You are encouraged by me to present your opinions on Zombies or economic systems or anything else & i don't care if you or anyone agree with me or not. We all seem to have this need to have our opinions validated by others but i'm aware of this and trying to get past it.
Again a communist system by definition doesn't allow competition, so China & Germany are mixed systems with the private sectors being the area the creates new stuff. Most communist systems have evolved by necessity to be blended systems of communism and capitalism like Vietnam,China & Russia but there are still relics left like Cuba and North Korea. Venezeula & Bolivia seem to be solidly socialistic.


Sounds good to me, Steve. Folks need to know, what can trigger a zombie apocalypse. And I have just started, to outline my ideas and thoughts. :D

As a public service, to our forum readers. I present this article for reflection.


Let me quote an interesting segment - from the article:

While researching his book, “Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Zombies,” Mogk learned that, theoretically, scientists could make a disease to create living zombies in a lab today. In addition, though he says there are clear obstacles before this comes to fruition, Mogk points to rabies and vCJD, sometimes called Human Mad Cow Disease, as potential candidates for bringing on a zombie plague.

In the case of Human Mad Cow, he says this disease is 100 percent fatal and a variant can potentially cause a person to go violently insane and spread to others through blood, which, as it turns out, is basically the premise for “Zombieland.”


So there are alternative scientific theories, as to how a zombie apocalypse can start. Which might compete, with my voodoo priest theory. But I can tie all this in, with our discussions - regarding our current, political climate forum thread.

And let me share this article today, from the Patheos evangelical newsletter:

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Please. This is important! Watch the 15 minute video - by the seminary trained minister. :!:

Let me quote a bit - from the accompanying article

What is a zombie? Is it possible for an evil demon to inhabit a dead body and walk around kind of like a false resurrection?

Are these things real, or just myths like cartoon superheroes? Are these kinds of things an insight into the supernatural battle between God and Satan that is raging on the earth? Or, are concepts like Satan, demons, and zombies primitive myths from a bygone age when people were not well educated and lived in fear of powerful but false cultural myths about the spirit realm?

Have you ever really stopped to think about these things in much detail? If someone asked you these kinds of questions, what would your answer be? Do you know if the Bible says anything about these subjects?


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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby St. Michael » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:02 am




Missiles in america
Deep down in the ground
They're pointing straight at russia
They're pointing all around
A small red button gently pressed
Will set those missiles free
And when they land with one big bang
The end of you and me
America leaders - who'll start the war
Soviet leaders - who'll start the war
There's missiles in the u.s.s.r
Pointing straight at you
Aimed at the united states of america
Aimed at britain too
A small red button gently pressed
Will set those missiles free
And when they land with one big bang
No hope for you and me
America leaders - who'll start the war
Soviet leaders - who'll start the war
American leaders
Who'll start the war
Who'll be a cowboy
What's the missiles for
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby steve7150 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:31 am

So there are alternative scientific theories, as to how a zombie apocalypse can start. Which might compete, with my voodoo priest theory.











Competition is good as it brings out the best in us. From my experience Zombies tend to be Capitalists as they eat up the competition! :roll:
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:32 am

The only downside to your ZA obsession is that we have a forum with hundred of gifs and pictures of rotting human corpses being cannibals, or slo-mo vids of brains coming out the back of heads. And plenty of blood. Really attractive. I so can't wait for more. Not.
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby St. Michael » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:39 am

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:03 am

If you enjoy this sort of thing - I mean, you really enjoy it - that's fine, maybe it's becoming the 'new normal'?

BUT - even if you find my posts offensive - a) you don't have to read them and b) you can easily forget them.

Zombie posts, which are offensive to me personally, you a) MUST see them and b)it's very hard to forget them.

So for those reasons, pictures of gore will trump dialogue. That's America in a nutshell, it seems.
No matter what I"ve written above, which will stick with you longer, what I wrote, or this:?
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby St. Michael » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:06 am

I'm not into it myself Dave. I use to be but I've grown spiritually. I just though Randy would like the videos above.
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:09 am

No doubt!! :lol:
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:48 am

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:47 am

DaveB wrote:If you enjoy this sort of thing - I mean, you really enjoy it - that's fine, maybe it's becoming the 'new normal'?

BUT - even if you find my posts offensive - a) you don't have to read them and b) you can easily forget them.

Zombie posts, which are offensive to me personally, you a) MUST see them and b)it's very hard to forget them.

So for those reasons, pictures of gore will trump dialogue. That's America in a nutshell, it seems.
No matter what I"ve written above, which will stick with you longer, what I wrote, or this:?


I think the world's obsession with zombies, it that we haven't come to grips with death. Zombies seem to live in that twilight, between life and death. Actually, when I try to get service at stores, etc...Some of the staff, are as "lively" as zombies. As far as zombie gory stuff goes, it's just Hollywood makeup, theatrics and... camera and computer creations...In other words, it's just "Hollywood make believe" - or is it?????

And I don't think I've ever shown zombies having lunch - via GIF images. Unless they were "cartoon" zombies. Which are not even "Hollywood make believe zombies" - right?

Just a comment here, David. Some folks are visual. Some are audio. Some like to read. Pictures, images, videos, etc. - capture our attention. It's a principle of copywriting and marketing. Don't you find certain ads you "love" to watch? Like the Geico commercials, for example? I'm using the same principles here - on this forum.

See Geico https://youtu.be/KzjC2WEF6f0 and https://youtu.be/7OIEFo2axGE

St. Michael wrote:I'm not into it myself Dave. I use to be but I've grown spiritually. I just though Randy would like the videos above.


Yes, Michael. I enjoy the videos you share. :D

Let's now end - with a famous quote - to reflect upon. :D

There is method in his madness - Macbeth by Shakespeare


This zombie is singing this Fats Domino song: https://youtu.be/Y29RZpHnkq8 :lol:

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:26 pm

Part And Parcel
OCTOBER 31, 2017 – 7:15 PM
A Muslim terrorist mowed in a rented truck mowed down pedestrians in New York today, killing eight people. At a news conference, Governor Cuomo assured us that the killer was a “lone wolf”, and that there was no evidence of a “wider plot”.

Rubbish. The “wider plot” has been in effect for fourteen centuries. It continues unabated today, and this man was part of it — as the next one will be, and the next, and the next.

Meanwhile, the Mayor announced that we will go forward “stronger than ever”. Stronger than ever, that is, with more barricades, security checkpoints, travel restrictions, militarized police, and ubiquitous surveillance.

Bleed, rinse, repeat. This is the future we have chosen.

Once again, I will say the Obvious Thing:

Allowing mass Muslim immigration is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can do. - MP
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby maintenanceman » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:44 pm

DaveB wrote:Part And Parcel
OCTOBER 31, 2017 – 7:15 PM
A Muslim terrorist mowed in a rented truck mowed down pedestrians in New York today, killing eight people. At a news conference, Governor Cuomo assured us that the killer was a “lone wolf”, and that there was no evidence of a “wider plot”.

Rubbish. The “wider plot” has been in effect for fourteen centuries. It continues unabated today, and this man was part of it — as the next one will be, and the next, and the next.

Meanwhile, the Mayor announced that we will go forward “stronger than ever”. Stronger than ever, that is, with more barricades, security checkpoints, travel restrictions, militarized police, and ubiquitous surveillance.

Bleed, rinse, repeat. This is the future we have chosen.

Once again, I will say the Obvious Thing:

Allowing mass Muslim immigration is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can do. - MP


When someone hates you and wants to kill you, you have to keep them out. There are those who are coming into western nations because it is easy and because they feel they are called to jihad.

At the same time many of the Muslim faith are wanting to come to western countries for a better life. Though it will remain to be seen if Muslims are going the way of Christians and will be open to maybe re thinking their fundamental beliefs.

Dave said,
Allowing mass Muslim immigration is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can do.
And I agree. There needs to be a very serious vetting structure in place. Or these kinds (what you talk about that happened tonight) will continue to happen.

As a side note, there are many different radical groups who are targeting factions of society and using technology to reach people right here in our own country :evil:
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:10 pm

maintenanceman wrote:As a side note, there are many different radical groups who are targeting factions of society and using technology to reach people right here in our own country


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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:53 am

DaveB wrote:
maintenanceman wrote:As a side note, there are many different radical groups who are targeting factions of society and using technology to reach people right here in our own country


So true.


Actually, Zombies - when acting in a herd - can be considered a "radicalized" group.

And let me share this article I've share previously, from the Patheos evangelical newsletter:



Please. This is important! Watch the 15 minute video - by the seminary trained minister. :!:

Let me quote a bit - from the accompanying article

What is a zombie? Is it possible for an evil demon to inhabit a dead body and walk around kind of like a false resurrection?

Are these things real, or just myths like cartoon superheroes? Are these kinds of things an insight into the supernatural battle between God and Satan that is raging on the earth? Or, are concepts like Satan, demons, and zombies primitive myths from a bygone age when people were not well educated and lived in fear of powerful but false cultural myths about the spirit realm?

Have you ever really stopped to think about these things in much detail? If someone asked you these kinds of questions, what would your answer be? Do you know if the Bible says anything about these subjects?


P.S. Some folks here might not like the "Hollywood make-believe", zombie GIF images. So if I can substitute a "cartoon" variation instead, I will do so. :lol:

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Just a footnote here. I get all GIF images, from a Google keyword search. And I insure the images, are geared to a GP audience. Same as I do, when I post things - on social media. If any of my images, are consider R-rated... Please point out the image to me. I don't think zombies having lunch, are suitable images - for a GP audience. But folks dressed as zombies - via Hollywood make-up artistry - are considered suitable. Sometimes, it's hard to balance - between images and text. And so folks won't get locked into GIF images, I'll "stir it up" (see song https://youtu.be/S3UqvWk8-uw). Meaning sometimes I'll use a GIF...sometimes a cartoon...and sometimes a still image. All honoring the high standards...of the Russian Orthodox, Holy Fools tradition. :D
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby JasonPratt » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:43 am

DaveB wrote:If you enjoy this sort of thing - I mean, you really enjoy it - that's fine, maybe it's becoming the 'new normal'?

BUT - even if you find my posts offensive - a) you don't have to read them and b) you can easily forget them.

Zombie posts, which are offensive to me personally, you a) MUST see them and b)it's very hard to forget them.

So for those reasons, pictures of gore will trump dialogue. That's America in a nutshell, it seems.
No matter what I"ve written above, which will stick with you longer, what I wrote, or this:?



Well, I've already gotten a complaint from someone who missed the point of you posting the gif.

That said, now that I have provided documentation that you've made your point, you can remove it now, thx.


I think Cindy is keeping track of this thread, but if anyone is putting up R-rated gifs or images, I recommend you think several times about it before doing so. I'll tend to side with people complaining about their presence on this forum; I suspect the other ad/mods will, too.

(Edited to add: I understand the point Dave was trying to make, and I'm not warning or even criticizing him personally. I'm only staking out an admin position since the topic has come up.)
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:01 am

Done. No problem.
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby Paidion » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:05 am

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby St. Michael » Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:16 pm

Can't you see?
It all makes perfect sense
Expressed in dollars and cents
Pounds shillings and pence

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby St. Michael » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:06 am

Full lyrics are on the screen in the video. Perfect sense by Roger Waters


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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:41 pm

1) He got conservative judge Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
2) The stock market is at an all-time high.
3) Consumer confidence is at an all-time high.
4) He created more than a million jobs by undoing Obama’s regulations.
5) Mortgage applications for new homes is at a 7 year high.
6) Unemployment rate is at a 16 year low.
7) Signed the promoting women in entrepreneurship act.
8) Gutted 800 Obama era regulations thus freeing up companies to hire again and get the economy moving once again.
9) Ended the war on coal and caused a new mine for coal mining to open that will mine clean coal. He also put the miners back to work.
10) Weakened Dodd-Frank regulations.
11) Promotes buying and hiring American.
12) Investments from major businesses such as Foxconn, Ford ,Toyota, Intel amd others will build here now.
13) Reduced illegal immigration by over 70%.
14) Bids for the border wall are underway.
15) He’s fighting back against sanctuary cities.
16) Changed the rules of engagement against ISIS.
17) Drafted a plan to defeat ISIS.
18) Worked to reduce the cost of the F-35 fighter jets.
19) Imposed a five year lobbying plan.
20) Sanctioned Iran over its’ missile program.
21) Responded to Syria’s use of chemical weapons.
22) Reduced tax reform plan.
23) He’s renegotiating NAFTA.
READ: Rep Wilson claims Niger is Trump's Benghazi
24) He withdrew from the Trans Pacific Partnership thus keeping jobs here.
25) He pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords thus saving us millions of dollars every year.
26) Created a task force to reduce crime.
27) The DOJ is targeting dangerous gangs like MS-13.
28) Signed independence and economic growth law.
29) Signed an executive order to protect police officers and target drug cartels.
30) Signed an executive order for religious freedom.
31) His administration is working on sending education back to the states.
32) He’s fixing the dept. of Veterans affairs so now vets can choose their own doctors and be covered. This also protects whistle blowers and allows VA to terminate bad employees..
33) Authorized construction of the Keystone and Dakota pipelines. The Dakota pipeline is up and running without harming the environment.
34) Created commissions on election fraud and opioid addiction.
35) Food stamp use is the lowest level in seven years.
36) Reduced the White House payroll saving taxpayers millions of dollars.
37) He’s donating his salary to various causes.
38) Signed 52 pieces of legislation.
39) Cut 600 billion from UN peacekeeping mission.
40) Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

You won’t hear any of this in the mainstream media. All they know is destroy, distract and damage. That shows that they don’t care about the people they claim to care about because if they did they would work with Trump and make the country better.
Trump accomplished all of this on his own without the help of congress who are useless at this point. All the media cares about is how they can destroy him today. They have no solutions of their own. They are all deranged ideologues suffering from what is known as Trump derangement syndrome. No wonder the media’s and congress’ ratings are lower than Trump’ s. His may be low, but theirs is lower.
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:28 pm

I think all presidents, need to develop a sense of humor. Look at this article today, from the Patheos site, evangelical newsletter:


Let me quote a bit - from the article:

Humor is a great way to start a message because humor breaks down walls. Between any speaker and audience, especially if there are guests, there are walls of skepticism and unconnectedness built up. If you start hitting them with truth right out of the gate, that truth will run straight into the defensive brick walls that the audience has built up. Something as simple as shared laughter can break down walls, build the beginning of a bond between the speaker and an audience, and can make the deeper truths you want to communicate more palatable to a skeptical audience.

One of humor’s main strategic uses in a sermon is to release the tension in the room, allowing you to build it right back up. Here’s what I mean: let’s say that the intensity of a sermon is on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the lightest and 10 being the most intense. Some communicators think they need to get to 10 as quickly as possible and stay there. They’ll start the sermon intense and almost angry, and then proceed to stay there for the next 45 minutes. If you red line the intensity of a sermon for that long, you’re most likely going to exhaust and possibly lose your audience. Strategic humor releases the tension, allowing you to build it back up. If you start the intensity of your sermon at a 6 and build it up to a 9, a well-planned joke releases the tension back to a 6, gives everyone a short breather, and then allows you to build the intensity right back. At the end of the sermon you still have everyone where you want them to be, but now they don’t feel like they just ran a marathon.

Finally, good use of humor in a message is a surefire way to keep guests and audiences coming back. As spiritual as you hope they might be, the question most guests ask themselves when they decide whether or not they’ll come back is simply, “Did I enjoy myself at this church?” If people laugh, they have fun and they’re more likely to come back. If your goal is to preach at a high intensity to a gradually declining group of insiders, by all means reject any form of humor. But if you want the chance to assimilate guests into your church (meaning they’ll need to come back regularly), humor will always give you a better shot at connecting with a guest through a message. And guess what? When guests come back and people get saved, that definitely glorifies God.


In fact, TV evangelist Joel Osteen, always starts his program - with a joke. :lol:

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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby DaveB » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:09 pm

Golly gee, I thought a nice list of accomplishments might get - even from die-hard Trump haters - at least a grudging acknowledgment.

There ya go Randy, I started off with a joke. :lol:
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Re: How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Postby maintenanceman » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:40 pm

DaveB wrote:1) He got conservative judge Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
2) The stock market is at an all-time high.
3) Consumer confidence is at an all-time high.
4) He created more than a million jobs by undoing Obama’s regulations.
5) Mortgage applications for new homes is at a 7 year high.
6) Unemployment rate is at a 16 year low.
7) Signed the promoting women in entrepreneurship act.
8) Gutted 800 Obama era regulations thus freeing up companies to hire again and get the economy moving once again.
9) Ended the war on coal and caused a new mine for coal mining to open that will mine clean coal. He also put the miners back to work.
10) Weakened Dodd-Frank regulations.
11) Promotes buying and hiring American.
12) Investments from major businesses such as Foxconn, Ford ,Toyota, Intel amd others will build here now.
13) Reduced illegal immigration by over 70%.
14) Bids for the border wall are underway.
15) He’s fighting back against sanctuary cities.
16) Changed the rules of engagement against ISIS.
17) Drafted a plan to defeat ISIS.
18) Worked to reduce the cost of the F-35 fighter jets.
19) Imposed a five year lobbying plan.
20) Sanctioned Iran over its’ missile program.
21) Responded to Syria’s use of chemical weapons.
22) Reduced tax reform plan.
23) He’s renegotiating NAFTA.
READ: Rep Wilson claims Niger is Trump's Benghazi
24) He withdrew from the Trans Pacific Partnership thus keeping jobs here.
25) He pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accords thus saving us millions of dollars every year.
26) Created a task force to reduce crime.
27) The DOJ is targeting dangerous gangs like MS-13.
28) Signed independence and economic growth law.
29) Signed an executive order to protect police officers and target drug cartels.
30) Signed an executive order for religious freedom.
31) His administration is working on sending education back to the states.
32) He’s fixing the dept. of Veterans affairs so now vets can choose their own doctors and be covered. This also protects whistle blowers and allows VA to terminate bad employees..
33) Authorized construction of the Keystone and Dakota pipelines. The Dakota pipeline is up and running without harming the environment.
34) Created commissions on election fraud and opioid addiction.
35) Food stamp use is the lowest level in seven years.
36) Reduced the White House payroll saving taxpayers millions of dollars.
37) He’s donating his salary to various causes.
38) Signed 52 pieces of legislation.
39) Cut 600 billion from UN peacekeeping mission.
40) Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.

You won’t hear any of this in the mainstream media. All they know is destroy, distract and damage. That shows that they don’t care about the people they claim to care about because if they did they would work with Trump and make the country better.
Trump accomplished all of this on his own without the help of congress who are useless at this point. All the media cares about is how they can destroy him today. They have no solutions of their own. They are all deranged ideologues suffering from what is known as Trump derangement syndrome. No wonder the media’s and congress’ ratings are lower than Trump’ s. His may be low, but theirs is lower.
In the areas of economics and national security, Trump is in the midst of healing this country’s true woes. He’s facing nearly insurmountable opposition from every corner of Washington and the media. But he’s started something in motion that will ultimately prevail. He has turned the ship around. That’s moral victory. That’s making America great again. That’s all that really, truly matters. - CDN


You know you make some good points here, I'm not sure I would like Mr. Trump in person :o (but maybe Donald and I would click :lol: or maybe not ) I am sure that some of his tactics and antics are viewed as not being gentlemanly or statesman like :shock: But the overriding sentiment of much of the country is that things have to be shaken up and the politicians who are paid by us and voted in by us need to start acting like they work for us as opposed to getting into office and suddenly realizing that they know better than their constituency :roll: This seems to be the crux.... Why the hell is he doing all of this when no one else would do it? Duh he figured out that he could win by pandering to a very needy and wanting group of American citizens. He did it, he won and now let's see what happens. :D
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Postby DaveB » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:51 pm

maintenanceman wrote:things have to be shaken up and the politicians who are paid by us and voted in by us need to start acting like they work for us as opposed to getting into office and suddenly realizing that they know better than their constituenc


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Postby Paidion » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:55 pm

Well, here are the facts— No, never mind!

As one Trump supporter put it, "My mind is made up! Don't confuse me with the facts!"
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Postby DaveB » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:56 pm

That same thing was said by millions of HIllary supporters. :lol:
Ah well, the great pageant of life moves on, eh??
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Postby maintenanceman » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:01 pm

Paidion wrote:Well, here are the facts— No, never mind!

As one Trump supporter put it, "My mind is made up! Don't confuse me with the facts!"


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Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:53 pm

I propose that we give President Trump and the Trumpeters...As well as all political zombies ...a rest for the holidays. And we can resurrect both Trump and the zombies...after New Years day. If we need to - that is. ;)

After all, Donald did pardon two turkeys. That good deed, should last him through New Years Day. :lol:

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Postby DaveB » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:04 pm

For those that are willing to judge Trump fairly, here's a good piece of writing.
https://townhall.com/columnists/evansay ... s-n2354580
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What a great response to a thoughtful article. :( :(
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Postby St. Michael » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:58 pm

Like all business people trump is a social Darwinist. I trust nothing they say or have printed up. Only the wealthy benefit on his system. If you want to make money you have to already have money.
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To learn about Trump's philosophy Wikipedia has provided quotes from his books and other things here:


https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
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Postby DaveB » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:21 pm

I watch what he does, not what a wiki says - and he is doing good things for you and me.
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Postby St. Michael » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:29 pm

fake news
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Hahahahahahaah - of course you missed the list of 41 accomplishments up above. Hahahahaha
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Bragging about accomplishments is extreme ego Dave.
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Postby DaveB » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:24 pm

More fake news?? Everyone said Trump was crazy to predict 3% growth in the GDP.
Well, he's done it, and we're all going to be better off, even those who hate Trump. Sorry.

https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2 ... ly+News%29
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Postby DaveB » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:35 pm

Fake news. Social Darwinist. Sex pervert. Islamaphobe. Racist. Whore-monger. Capitalist pig. Hater of poor people, immigrants, anybody not white, he is nothing more than an insect-brained meat animal. Fascist pig. He's too evil even for hell. We must invent a new even badder place for him. One that lasts not only for eternity and infinity, but infinity squared!! At least!!
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He's a good business man Dave. But at the moment business people just don't cut it for me. It's something personal I've experienced with the way they treat people and view the world.
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Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:48 am

I think if Trump would hire, a couple of zombies...and included them in his staff...he would show...he's an equal opportunity, government employer. :lol:

Here comes the job candidates now. :lol:

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But, but Randy - Lefties don't want to work for Trump!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Cindy Skillman » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:37 pm

Recognizing Jerusalem as what it manifestly IS, the capital of Israel, means a LOT to me. Thank you, DJT. Our new president has fought harder and worked harder and persevered like no president we've had in a very, very long time. Not disappointed... and to think, I mostly voted for him because he's NOT Hillary. Turns out he was the best of the whole bunch all along. And maybe he just might succeed at draining that swamp... er, cesspool... er, quagmire.... Yes, I think he just might.
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Recognizing Jerusalem as what it manifestly IS, the capital of Israel, means a LOT to me. Thank you, DJT. Our new president has fought harder and worked harder and persevered like no president we've had in a very, very long time. Not disappointed... and to think, I mostly voted for him because he's NOT Hillary. Turns out he was the best of the whole bunch all along. And maybe he just might succeed at draining that swamp... er, cesspool... er, quagmire.... Yes, I think he just might.






Despite the fact many dislike him personally, objectively speaking Trump is doing a great job with economic growth doubling , job creation accelerating, ISIS decimated, Kim's nuclear buildup at least confronted and consumer confidence soaring as well as the Stock Market.

Claiming only the rich benefit is a "leftist" talking point and pure gibberish.
Also Afro-Americans are doing much better although they seem to hate Trump and love Obama yet they are way better under Trump.

Next comes infrastructure spending and i can't wait to here how the MSM and "political left" frame this as benefiting the rich!
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Postby Paidion » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:38 am

DaveB wrote:Another great Trump action - Great for Israel, and for us.


Another? It's the first from my point of view. And I ain't no "Leftie" (I was even a candidate for the farthest right party that existed in Canada at the time when I ran.) Yet I do deplore the extreme right in United States for blaming "Lefties" for all the country's ills.

The New Democratic Party in Canada is farther left than any of the so-called Leftie Villains of United States, but I don't see any more damage from their influence than from anyone else. Though the NDP has never been in power federally, individual provinces have elected an NDP government at various times, and I've never heard anyone complain that these "Lefties" had ruined their province.

Indeed, Tommy Douglas, a Baptist minister, became leader of the CCF Party (Co-operative Commonwealth Federation—even farther left than the present NDP party. Some people said "CCF" stood for "Crazy Canadian Farmers"). Douglas became premier of Saskatchewan, and it was he who established a great health system in that province. He then stepped down as premier to lead the newly-formed NDP Party. In 2004, a CBC Television program named Tommy Douglas "The Greatest Canadian", based on a Canada-wide, viewer-supported survey. You can read more about this great leader in this Wikipedia article from which I drew much of my information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas

Soon other provinces adopted a similar health system. The Ontario Health Insurance Plan has certainly saved me many thousands of dollars. And I've never heard of any Conservative Party member who wished to see this health system demolished.
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Postby DaveB » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:44 am

Just a little credit where credit is due, Don? Did you read the list of 40 accomplishments in his first year, that I posted up above? Like I said, I am not a fan of Trump, but when he does something good for the US, I'm at least willing to say 'good job'.
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Postby DaveB » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:35 pm

BTW - I am hugely disappointed in the health-care debacle in the US.

But otoh, another Trump accomplishment: Isis is 'in tatters' after about a year since Obama's a**-kissing appeasement policy'.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/08 ... tters.html

Oh NO - not Fox!! They reported that we landed a man on the moon - and we know that was false!! :lol:
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