Good video Geoff and I wonder if Jerry Wall’s batman tee shirt is intentional The more I know about Neo-Calvinism the more it seems similar in structure to Marxist Leninism to me. Both have a seemingly inexorable logic - the only difference is that one is in the name of an abstract Man, the other in the name of an abstract God
Ah, was watching this the other day. Haven’t finished it yet, 52 minutes in.
Got quite a lot of respect for Jerry Walls. He did a very good three part set of videos on the illogicality of Calvinism which is on Youtube and I think he did a book on it as well, though I haven’t read it. He also believes in the possibility of post-mortem salvation and purgatory, though isn’t a Universalist (he leans towards CS Lewis’ view on it as far as I’m aware). He’s debated with Tom Talbott on Universalism though I don’t know how those debates went.
That’s interesting - he’s in “Hellbound?”, and I got the impression that he’s a “Pessimistic Universalist” - or someone who hopes Universalism will be true, but can’t commit to it intellectually, or something like that. I would have thought he wouldn’t have wanted to debate the subject, but would have remained somewhat agnostic about it. I might have to look for that video.
Actually, I want to find more about this Talbott / Piper debate he mentioned in this video.
I was personally present for one of those recent debates, at Nashville a couple of summers ago. The honorable Edward Fudge was there, too, for annihilationism – it was at a conference on reconciliation, and Mr. Fudge’s biography film was early-screening, possibly for the first time. (That’s why he was there. Despite his position having nothing at all to do with reconciliation per se. )
I took copious notes, and later Dr. Talbott and I amicably double-teamed Dr. Walls while Mr. Fudge looked on in bemusement. We’re all big fans of C. S. Lewis, so we had a lot of common ground to work with.
However, the debate organizers asked audience members and participants not to post notes online as they were hoping to get a three-way book out of it. That didn’t happen, but then time happened so I never posted my notes.