stuartd wrote:…hence Calvinists are meant to view the things they view, exactly the way they are meant to view them, Because GOD (at this stage) wants them to view it that way !. ... Baptists are meant to view the things they view the way they view them, fully believing they are absolutely true !
davo wrote:stuartd wrote:…hence Calvinists are meant to view the things they view, exactly the way they are meant to view them, Because GOD (at this stage) wants them to view it that way !. ... Baptists are meant to view the things they view the way they view them, fully believing they are absolutely true !
I’m afraid (at this stage) “Because GOD (at this stage) wants them to view it that way” just doesn’t jell for me… of course I could be wrong.
I can’t see to what purpose diametrically opposed understandings can be held by a person with only time being the difference between the two and yet both in their day held and cherished as revelations from God… only then for one to be discarded for the other; and how countless such a scenario?
perhaps GOD is so intelligently superior he wants it to be this way , not that I mean to ''on purpose'' pick on the calvinists but using them as an example (if my theory has merit) he at this stage wants them to believe everyone bar themselves will forever burn in hell, precisely because he will have them right where he wants them !, (in other words they will finally arrive at the point of HUMILITY), yes I know its hard to conceive, but would it not at least make some sense !, an intelligent GOD would outmanoeuvre you , perhaps then its conceivable that he wants atheists to vehemently oppose all belief in him perhaps he wants christians to be wrong on a wide range of subjects !
lets not forget ''with GOD all things are possible''
I’m of the opinion WE gravitate to and grasp certain realities which we then ascribe as “truth” because of the religious “context” of our lives at that given point. I certainly believe that that contributes to the scenario
IF God has a problem with US it isn’t so much with what we believe as it is with what we do… trouble is (for us) what we DO is driven so much by what we believe.BINGO IOW, any discrepancy lies on our side not God’s, IMO.
pilgrim wrote:Hi Stuart - I too am not too sure I understand your O.P. nor on which side of the fence you sit, but I'm interested.
I know MacDonald was a great proponent of progressive revelation and if this is necessary for an entire society (as was the context when I last read him), I don't see why it might not also be the way for one soul's journey. That said, I suppose it still leads to one final absolute truth although, along the way, different perspectives may be correct for each particular soul in order for that soul to journey in the right direction. Don't know if any of that made sense.
DaveB wrote:StuartD - this is one of my 'stupid days' wherein I have trouble connecting dots. Most days I connect dots well, some days not. It is NOT an age thing!!! I hope....
Anyway, I'm hoping you can kind of re-cast what you're getting at? I think you're onto a good line of thinking, but I'm not sure I get it, exactly.
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