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Postby Alex Smith » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:26 pm

After a lot of consideration, the forum administrators have decided that sadly it's time to wind things up here as Facebook is an easier & cheaper platform (it costs time & money to run this forum—both of which has been generously volunteered for the past 8.5 years). There are now many Christian Universalist FB groups but the largest/longest running evangelical one is Evangelical Universalism (Invitation & Debate).

However, as we believe there is valuable content on this forum, we are going to leave it online as read-only for a few months to allow members to collect and curate. For example, the administrators are planning to try to export/reformat the "Featured" section onto another website (possibly Blogger).

From the first of March onwards the forum will be read-only and also won't be accepting any new members.

On behalf of the Administrators & Moderators, I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this forum over the years!
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Postby davo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:32 pm

And a big thank you to all you admins who have allowed us to post and discuss many interesting things. :D
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Alex Smith » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:35 pm

You're most welcome Davo! I hope that you can join us on Facebook if you're not already there :)
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Postby DaveB » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:24 pm

Thanks to all of you.

Unfortunately I am not a Facebook person.
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Postby pog » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:09 am

Oh well. I wonder what will happen to that big list of names Sobornost and others compiled? Maybe someone else can improve it and add many more names and details :)
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby JasonPratt » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:14 am

We plan to migrate a lot of stuff to a free platform, and the list is high on the list. 8-)

Depending on how things go, the site ID will simply shift over to the new platform, which won't be a forum (probably). The new platform will NOT be Facebook; it'll be something like Wordpress or Blogger. More like what "Rethinking Hell" has been doing.

This is partly because the hosting service for this forum will be ceasing to support BBCode, which will necessitate us moving as much of everything we can to another platform anyway. (They'll gladly charge a premium fee to help with that, of course. :mrgreen: We decided to decline that offer.)
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Postby Gabe Grinstead » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:17 am

Wow, bummer. This was a great place with great people. I try not to do much with FB. Anyhow, thanks for the forum these past years. It was great.
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Postby JasonPratt » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:25 am

Once we have things up and running on the new site, we'll either post a link there so whoever wants can jump over, or (ideally) we'll switch the new site's id over to this one. Typing in www.evangelicaluniversalist.com, or clicking a bookmark on your browser set to that (but NOT with the /forum extension) will just take you to the new site one morning. Around Easter we hope, for thematic purposes. 8-)

Members won't be able to just post new threads to socialize, however (or probably not since that requires a forum engine), so that's the reason for noting FB groups are available.
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Postby JasonPratt » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:57 am

I should add that, while this is the plan, it will be a masssssssively huge task even to only get the technical/reference things moved over. It won't be an easy task to even IDENTIFY all the tech/ref things (and not all of THEM will be moved over; none of my purely trinitarian works will go for example). Many many many of the 101 thousand posts of the 6500 threads will not be moved over.

And the plan might largely fail for other reasons. Consequently, the safest thing is to treat the forum as going down permanently and, if you (whoever is reading this) have things you posted or that others have posted that you want to ensure are privately archived, you should be taking the opportunity to do that now. Because giant supertanker-loads of things will be permanently gone otherwise.
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Postby Geoffrey » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:30 am

Facebook? My impression of Facebook is that it is for teenagers talking about nothing and soccer moms setting-up play-dates for their children.

Perhaps my impression is wrong. I'll have to look at the Facebook group.
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Postby JasonPratt » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:22 am

Well, strictly speaking FB is for posting "hot or not" college girl selfies in Boston. (That's how it started anyway. ;) )

It's okay for social interaction and news sharing, so it could (theoretically) take up the slack for that part of the forum. The technical/reference things will go somewhere else.
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Postby maintenanceman » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:04 am

Thanks Jason for helping things run so smoothly. :D
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Postby DaveB » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:13 am

I tried FB for a short while and found it to be pretty worthless and time-consuming; no going back to it for me.

Dang, I'm gonna miss this place. I thought of it like 'Cheers' without the beer. We had our personal barstools, we had our Cliffs Clavinss and our Norm!!!!!s and Frasiers' - it was a place to get out of the ECT 'rain', belly up to the bar and see some old familiar faces, and some new ones too.
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Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:44 am

DaveB wrote:I tried FB for a short while and found it to be pretty worthless and time-consuming; no going back to it for me.

Dang, I'm gonna miss this place. I thought of it like 'Cheers' without the beer. We had our personal barstools, we had our Cliffs Clavinss and our Norm!!!!!s and Frasiers' - it was a place to get out of the ECT 'rain', belly up to the bar and see some old familiar faces, and some new ones too.


Golly! I wonder what Cheers character - I best Identify with :?: Actually, I'm more akin to Hawkeye, in the TV series MASH. :lol:

But while I like to clown around (it's liking the historical Christian, Holy Fool's tradition and the Coyote, Native American character)...I am very serious, regarding theology, philosophy and science. And hanging out here, has helped shaped and crystallized my worldview.

I'll probably not get to the Facebook group. But I'll continue to:

    Be active on social media
    Continue growing in theology and philosophy
    Continue to perfect my writing style
    Continue with the languages of Latin American...the popular languages of Europe...and the strange world of Chinese Mandarin
    Continue to work with homeopathy, Ayurveda, Traditional Chinese Medicine and spiritual healing

Some nice, fun folks here. We should have a going away song? :lol:

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Postby nimblewill » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:57 am

This has been a great asset to my journey into, around, over, under and sometimes through the concept of Hell. Thanks. I can't hide on Facebook though so I'll miss this place.
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Postby steve7150 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:14 am

Facebook? My impression of Facebook is that it is for teenagers talking about nothing and soccer moms setting-up play-dates for their children.

Perhaps my impression is wrong. I'll have to look at the Facebook group.








I'm on FB and i'm up to 1,700 friends but it's because i have a business and it allows me to get inexpensive publicity. Most of the discussions on my page are either political or funny posts or misc posts.
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Postby pog » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:15 am

Yes, the lack of anonymity is awkward. However, it is possible to make a false name account with a different email address and set all settings to private, just so as to participate in a group anonymously. :)
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Postby Gabe Grinstead » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:33 am

pog wrote:Yes, the lack of anonymity is awkward. However, it is possible to make a false name account with a different email address and set all settings to private, just so as to participate in a group anonymously. :)


Glad you both brought this up. It was something I almost created a post on a few months ago. Figure I might as well add my two cents on the matter.

Why do you need anonymity? In my experience, when someone doesn't use their real name, it both causes potential deception and the user themselves to act in a way with no real consequences to their reputation. Such people, I have to wonder, are probably living a double life. With exception to death threats, I can't see a reason a Christian would need to hide behind a handle or false name.

The downsides I see when someone decides to obscure who they really are:

1) Allows them to act in an extreme immature way with no real consequences. People will say rude things that they would never say in person to someone else.

2) Typically will cause more trollish behavior.

I typically only truly respect people that use their real names when it comes to serious topics. I am sorry if this offends, but it is the way I have felt for a very long time. If you can't be honest with who you are, then why should I take you seriously? You can post something rude and mean, then create a new account and do it all over again. Now, just because I don't respect it, doesn't mean others won't. And, who cares if Gabe Grinstead respects you or not? :-) Probably won't lose any sleep over it, or rather, you shouldn't. :-) But it is more for me to to ascertain the worth of someone's posting or opinion. Do they have courage to actually post this so others that know them might see? Or are they unsure of themselves on the matter and are just fishing for other opinions before they decide? I see it as fence sitting, so to speak.
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Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:49 pm

Gabe Grinstead wrote:
pog wrote:Yes, the lack of anonymity is awkward. However, it is possible to make a false name account with a different email address and set all settings to private, just so as to participate in a group anonymously. :)


Glad you both brought this up. It was something I almost created a post on a few months ago. Figure I might as well add my two cents on the matter.

Why do you need anonymity? In my experience, when someone doesn't use their real name, it both causes potential deception and the user themselves to act in a way with no real consequences to their reputation. Such people, I have to wonder, are probably living a double life. With exception to death threats, I can't see a reason a Christian would need to hide behind a handle or false name.

The downsides I see when someone decides to obscure who they really are:

1) Allows them to act in an extreme immature way with no real consequences. People will say rude things that they would never say in person to someone else.

2) Typically will cause more trollish behavior.

I typically only truly respect people that use their real names when it comes to serious topics. I am sorry if this offends, but it is the way I have felt for a very long time. If you can't be honest with who you are, then why should I take you seriously? You can post something rude and mean, then create a new account and do it all over again. Now, just because I don't respect it, doesn't mean others won't. And, who cares if Gabe Grinstead respects you or not? :-) Probably won't lose any sleep over it, or rather, you shouldn't. :-) But it is more for me to to ascertain the worth of someone's posting or opinion. Do they have courage to actually post this so others that know them might see? Or are they unsure of themselves on the matter and are just fishing for other opinions before they decide? I see it as fence sitting, so to speak.


People use fake names for good reasons - sometimes. It could be they attend a church, have friends and relatives, etc. - who are not universalists. And they don't want folks to criticize, belittle them, etc.

I started out using my real name. Then I noticed most folks had pseudonyms. Then I said I should get in the groove. I couldn't find that many Holy Fools and P-Zombies, to hang out with - on social media. Here I can introduce everyone, to Holy Fool, Zombie and P-Zombie culture. Like they say: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Actually, the move to a Facebook or LinkedIn group (or Yahoo group), is a good idea. You don't need to worry about technical issues, like:

    The server being down
    Someone hacking the system
    A now software release needs installing
    Etc.

And you probably don't need to pay for hosting. The downside is you are constricted by any FaceBook, Yahoo or LinkedIn rules and regulations. But that normally, should not be an issue.
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Postby DaveB » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:53 pm

I guess I just did not know that this forum was that expensive. JP is the only remaining mod as far as I can tell - where are the others?
Like I said, FB is not for me, I'll have to find another Forum - any suggestions?
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Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:03 pm

DaveB wrote:I guess I just did not know that this forum was that expensive. JP is the only remaining mod as far as I can tell - where are the others?
Like I said, FB is not for me, I'll have to find another Forum - any suggestions?


Well, Dave, you can view a list of 10 top hosting services at http://www.webhostingbest10.com/best-shared-web-hosting-services. Much depends on the bandwidth that is being used. Although there might be much stored data on this forum...I don't see that many participants - in an active thread. Of course, you need to also run analytics - like Google Analytics, And AWSTATS, which is a great tool - for reading the web server logs.

I did run a self hosting website once - for a client. Most servers are run using LAMP (i.e. Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP). Which is all open source. And you can install a self hosted WordPress. Which is a great tool for creating articles. But the same self hosting service, can run things like PHPBB. And it wasn't that expensive. Even in self hosting services, they do backups and restores for you. But you usually have to fix data base problems (i.e. MySQ) yourself. If you created the database record.
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Postby steve7150 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:59 pm

I guess I just did not know that this forum was that expensive. JP is the only remaining mod as far as I can tell - where are the others?
Like I said, FB is not for me, I'll have to find another Forum - any suggestions?







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Postby Geoffrey » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:16 pm

On Facebook groups can people have long, in-depth, serious discussions as on a message board? Or is everything swiftly shunted aside by the latest thing?
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Postby steve7150 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:52 pm

On Facebook groups can people have long, in-depth, serious discussions as on a message board? Or is everything swiftly shunted aside by the latest thing?




I'm on FB and as far as i know you can. I don't know about all the separate threads.
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Postby Eaglesway » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:28 pm

It has been a pleasure and I will miss it. Grace and peace Y'all!
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Postby Alex Smith » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:49 pm

Thanks for all the feedback! Some good points have been raised here (particularly the drawbacks of Facebook) and on a Facebook post about the changes. So I'm now discussing some possible alternative ways forward... (e.g. BBpress) but nothing has been decided yet :)
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Postby Paidion » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:27 pm

I used to be on facebook. But when some people with whom I had excellent exchanges on a Christian forum, also posted on facebook, they were very rude in their behaviour. Many other people posted only small talk. I can't stand small talk. So I managed to get off facebook.

I have posted for years on "The Narrow Path" hosted by Steve Gregg. But recently Steve's disagreement with me concerning the character of God took a bad turn. I felt personally attacked and ridiculed. So I stopped posting on that forum.

So unless there's "some possible alternative" as Alex indicated, it appears that I won't on any forum. For I doubt that I will find another Christian forum where the quality of posting matches either "The Evangelical Universalism" forum or "The Narrow Path" forum.
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Postby alecforbes » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:41 pm

I haven't posted in ages but after mention of this on another site, I have to let everyone involved with this project know how much EU has meant to me in my growth in so many ways.

I'd like to mention @Sobornost, @Pog, @Jason, and @Alex especially but there are so many others who have commented here that I've learned from. The format here which allowed longform posts and thoughtful responses and conversations is something I really miss. When I think about it, this forum was crucial in my intellectual and spiritual journey and I will always remember that.

I am saddened by the thought that all this wonderful discussion, thought, and even battles might no longer exist for me or others to see in the near future. Shoot, I would even pay to have a CD with the archives on it and try and figure out what to do with that given that CDs deteriorate. I suspect this nostalgia and appreciation for historical records comes from recent reading of Samuel Pepys diary. :)

In any event, kudos to all involved in this and God Bless. The site has been more influential than I think any of us will ever know. (And don't forget the CD archive idea)

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Postby DaveB » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:54 pm

I realize that I'm a bit of a Luddite when it comes to 'social media' - I don't like it much. This is the only Forum I felt comfortable with, and I don't tweet or FB or insta-anything, as every experience I've had with those things was fast-paced, shallow, insignificant - compared to the more leisurely, deeper and more significant exchanges here.
And I think EU is a significant topic that should be treated as such - as well as the other topics here, including cats. :-)

I saddens me to think that a topic as necessary as this one will be losing its foremost platform, and the thought of all the accumulated insights that will be lost, from the past and into the future, is really a shock.

Participation has slowed down for the nonce, and for some reason most of the mods have given up - perhaps time constraints - and some of those who stimulated us with their take on the arts, or fantasy and other types of fiction, music etc. have gone away as well, so the forum is not as well-rounded as it once was - and that is a shame. I wish those folks would come back and make contributions. Plant some seeds. Get things rolling again.

But if wishes were horses, all thieves would ride. I'm not real sure what that means though... :)
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Postby Bob Wilson » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:08 pm

I am deeply grateful for those who did most of the heavy lifting that has made this forum possible. Of course, being able to regularly offer a relevant link to one of my papers posted here has also left me indebted to this site.

As one on board from the beginning, my participation ebbed and flowed, sometimes feeling questions explored earlier were repeatedly revisited, or topics of little personal interest were pursued. But I resonate with feeling that most social media doesn't encourage the kind of safe forum where there is likely to be serious and sustained engagement with topics that have been explored on this one. And on FB forums, I've already heard a number who have moved on from the EU site express angst over this news in recognizing that many of their closest friends in such other venues were originally found when they were on this forum.

I enjoy other forums such as Scot McKnight's Jesus Creed, and Roger Olson's blog, but am aware of nothing that facilitates the kind of engagement and relationships that this forum has fostered. And I will feel the sense of loss in losing it that others have expressed.

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Postby pog » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:15 pm

Gabe:

The reason I post anonymously is that I could potentially face negative real world repercussions for my theological views which, through anonymity, are easily avoided. Why take the risk?

Also, you want to look into the argumentum ad hominem fallacy, lol :) I can be a total dirtbag and yet my argument, point or post could be totally correct - regardless of how evil or hypocritical I am. :) But that said, I totally understand where you're coming from and would prefer, myself, to not feel pressured to be anonymous.
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Postby qaz » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:04 am

Sad news, but understandable.

I have a Facebook but mainly use it to see new content from my brother and his family, who live far away. Like paidion, I hate small talk, and Facebook's formatting makes it difficult to have quality discussions. There's no quote feature, and there's a "like" feature that encourages people to snipe with quips.

If anyone wants to keep in touch via email though, that would be great!
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Postby pog » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:49 am

In my ltd experience FB doesn't suit serious, long discussions very well.
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Postby JasonPratt » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:02 am

DaveB wrote:I guess I just did not know that this forum was that expensive. JP is the only remaining mod as far as I can tell - where are the others?
Like I said, FB is not for me, I'll have to find another Forum - any suggestions?


They're around -- they help check the spamcatcher for example -- but their time and energy goes to FB nowadays, mostly.

The cost isn't an issue (I've been paying the cost, or helping with it, for years; as have other ad/mods) -- although the cost to pay someone to migrate us to another forum engine is three to six times what we pay a year for 'rent'. (I've forgotten exactly how much but over a thousand dollars.) So rather than pay that we're doing the migration ourselves.

We can't promise that the new system will be such as to allow all members to create new threads (although comment function should easily continue), so that's why we're pointing to FB group communities (starting with the one first created by administrators some time ago, but that will lead to other ones), just to be safe. Pseudonyms work fine there for those who want them, and you aren't required to fill in a bunch of true personal information for public (or even private) consumption. I assure you, the CIA and the NSA (and apparently the Chinese, and the Commonwealth side of the Five Eyes team ;) ), are going to track what you're saying and doing, even if you're posting here or at the new forum/blog/whatever. :mrgreen:


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Since it's possible our plans will fail, we're giving an early alert for anyone wanting to make sure whatever material they care about is archived.
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby steve7150 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:05 am

I'm also very sad to see this forum go as it had many fine contributors and i'll miss it a lot. FB to my knowledge isn't a platform for a forum with Topical threads although if this migrates there i'll certainly check it out. I first found out about this forum from Paidion when he was on thenarrowpath.com

If continuing this has anything to do with financial issues i would be happy to contribute.
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby JasonPratt » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:53 am

To help with migrating the forum material, and/or for public or private archiving, I have created a new thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7187

Or if that doesn't work you can try clicking this link.

Members can upload pdfs of your forum material to this thread -- I've attached my extended (but still far from complete) ExCom notes as an example there in the first post.

I can't guarantee we'll take everything posted there over, but it could help us a lot; and it will also give members a chance to pick up collections of your work for private archiving if they want to.
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby DaveB » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:00 am

Where do the mods/admins hang out? Is there a facebook page that is a good representative of the extent of thought that is shown here? Are there any familiar faces out there who left here and are now congregating somewhere? Is there a secret handshake?
I know that sometime ago there was an invitation-only site that some people here set up - I forget how I heard about it, the invite was not extended to me but that's no problem - is that the nesting place for the birds that have flown the coop?
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby nimblewill » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:25 pm

Gabe Grinstead wrote:
pog wrote:Yes, the lack of anonymity is awkward. However, it is possible to make a false name account with a different email address and set all settings to private, just so as to participate in a group anonymously. :)


Glad you both brought this up. It was something I almost created a post on a few months ago. Figure I might as well add my two cents on the matter.

Why do you need anonymity? In my experience, when someone doesn't use their real name, it both causes potential deception and the user themselves to act in a way with no real consequences to their reputation. Such people, I have to wonder, are probably living a double life. With exception to death threats, I can't see a reason a Christian would need to hide behind a handle or false name.

The downsides I see when someone decides to obscure who they really are:

1) Allows them to act in an extreme immature way with no real consequences. People will say rude things that they would never say in person to someone else.

2) Typically will cause more trollish behavior.

I typically only truly respect people that use their real names when it comes to serious topics. I am sorry if this offends, but it is the way I have felt for a very long time. If you can't be honest with who you are, then why should I take you seriously? You can post something rude and mean, then create a new account and do it all over again. Now, just because I don't respect it, doesn't mean others won't. And, who cares if Gabe Grinstead respects you or not? :-) Probably won't lose any sleep over it, or rather, you shouldn't. :-) But it is more for me to to ascertain the worth of someone's posting or opinion. Do they have courage to actually post this so others that know them might see? Or are they unsure of themselves on the matter and are just fishing for other opinions before they decide? I see it as fence sitting, so to speak.


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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Cindy Skillman » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:53 pm

Here are some Facebook universalism groups. They can be tricky to find, so I wanted to provide you with URLs. For many of them, you'll need to request permission to join. They're closed groups. That means that no one may read the group who is not a member. This protects members from the sort of things some are concerned about--that friends, family members, etc. might shun them if it was known that they believe God is actually good. ;) You don't have to use a real name, but if you don't, moderators may question you as to your motives when you request permission to join. You might also get questions if your account is brand new. That's because trolls often open fresh accounts in order to get into groups from which they've been banned. If you give credible reasons and are honest with the mods, they'll generally respect your privacy and allow you to join.

Evangelical Universalism Invitation & Debate
https://www.facebook.com/groups/invitaiontoeu/

Is Christian Universalism True?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/universalrestoration/

The Inescapable Love of God
https://www.facebook.com/groups/608766472556325/

The End of us All
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bareknuckleforever/

Jesus is Even Better than you Think
https://www.facebook.com/groups/733216460124911/

It can be tricky to find FB groups, so I thought this list might be helpful to folks.

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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby JasonPratt » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:37 am

DaveB wrote:Where do the mods/admins hang out? Is there a facebook page that is a good representative of the extent of thought that is shown here? Are there any familiar faces out there who left here and are now congregating somewhere? Is there a secret handshake?
I know that sometime ago there was an invitation-only site that some people here set up - I forget how I heard about it, the invite was not extended to me but that's no problem - is that the nesting place for the birds that have flown the coop?


Actually, the admins have been promoting two or three of the FB groups for a year or so on the announcement banner of the index page; those being the longest-running groups set up by forum members and from which other groups could be most likely found.

I don't know how much less secret they could be. I also don't know of any secret invitation-only sites; but public FB groups are often loosely "closed" in the FB sense of trying to make sure spammers don't randomly join groups. The first two listed by Cindy (which have been promoted on the index page for a year or so) are not marked as "closed" at all. The second two are, but you basically just have to ask to join, I think.
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby DaveB » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:01 am

Sure, I've seen them mentioned for the past year - I 'assumed' it was for those that preferred FB, not a prelude to current actions. And noone said :Hey I'm moving outta here as a mod and going to a FB site because (fill in the blank).

But of course "It's all good" - our cheese is always being moved in some area or another of our life. Life is moving cheese!

I'm thankful for what you, JP , and the others have provided. A lot of work and thought and some cash too.
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:39 am

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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby steve7150 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:10 pm

three things you can count on death,taxes and change, the Trinity of life!
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Paidion » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:35 pm

I once read, "The only things we can be sure about are death and taxes... and I'm not too sure about death."
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby LLC » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:46 pm

This forum has been a "light from many lamps" and I want to thank all those who worked hard to help create and maintain it over the years. I will surely miss everyone on here. Even though there have been disagreements, I considered this to be like a round table discussion amongst a group of friends, "breaking bread", sharing thoughts and ideas, and learning a lot in the process. Somehow I feel like this is the last supper. :( To all: I'd like to just say, keep the light burning until we meet again! :) :)
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Holy-Fool-P-Zombie » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 pm

LLC wrote:( To all: I'd like to just say, keep the light burning until we meet again! :) :)


That reminds me of a song :?: :lol:

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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby steve7150 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:38 pm

That reminds me of a song :?: :lol:






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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby Eusebius » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:37 am

In a way, this saddens me that this message board will become read only. Now I'll have to find other message boards
where Christians can attack me for what I believe. :D
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby davo » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:29 am

Eusebius wrote:In a way, this saddens me that this message board will become read only. Now I'll have to find other message boards
where Christians can attack me for what I believe. :D

    C'mon Eusebius… enough already with the martyr complex :lol:
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Re: Forum will be read-only from March onwards

Postby DaveB » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:40 am

That 'martyr' post was 'Justin' time :lol:
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