Bob Wilson wrote:Sherman, I (and my paper on hell) very much resonate with your reaction to this subject!
Gem wrote:If you scroll down the page a bit on this Google preview, Rob Bell goes through every time Jesus used the word "hell"
My husband has a masters degree in theology and he read that and immediately looked it up in the concordance (thinking to prove the traditional view I assume). He is one who wouldn't hesitate to use the "Jesus preached on hell more than anyone else" and he was very surprised by how few times Jesus uses the word and how repetitive the theme "If your __________ causes you to sin, cut it off! It is better for you to enter heaven without it than to suffer the fires of HELL"
I think Jesus is talking about earthly discipline in all those cases. It's not bye and bye torment in the sky and Christians do NOT get a free pass from it! You don't have to look far to see the suffering endured and caused by those who didn't cut off their __________.
revdrew61 wrote:Good points! But when they say "Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone else" I don't think people are only referring to direct use of words like Gehenna and Hades. They are also assuming that every time Jesus speaks of judgement or punishment or paying a penalty etc - what he has in mind is ECT. Brian McLaren has a great chapter on this in "The Last Word and the Word After That", tabulating all the evidence in the gospels.
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