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How To Live Under An Unqualified President by John Piper

Look. I also honor universalism. And hope and pray it is true. But some folks here, present some “far out” theologies - how it might happen. So why can’t I entertain, some “far out” political theories?

I think some of the African and Haitian witch doctors, have settled in the western countries. Some have even opened up Voodoo shops, in places like New Orleans. And they are probably all reading, these political left and right wing discussions - on Facebook, here perhaps, etc. So they create some zombies - out of spite. But things get out of control. Perhaps these zombies got a hold, of some illegal drugs, etc. And the witch doctors, are busy creating more zombies. And before you know it, we have the zombie apocalypse. There. I have presented my political theory. And it ties in nicely, with the P-Zombie version of hell (as presented by folks like Anglican, New Testament scholar - N.T. Wright). And the Left Behind (book and movie) series - in theology.

Now that I’ve brought this up - there’s no turning back. It’s my duty, to “enlighten” as many people - as possible :wink:

But China is a communist country and Germany is a socialist country. Both do allow folks to make money. The only “unwritten rule” for China, is NOT to criticize the Chinese government.

So what are you and Dave trying to “sell”? Become a Republican and all your problems will be solved?

Germany is a mixed economy, it has plenty of private enterprise plus a stock market as does China. China has a huge private sector too. Why does it seem to you Dave and i are selling anything? We have opinions as does everybody else here,yet you single us out as trying to sell our opinions or political viewpoints?

Which just says that communistic, capitalistic and socialistic systems - can all allow competition, making money and becoming rich. Without the need, to change the particular system.

You and Dave can present your opinions, Steve. And I can also present my opinion, on what will trigger - the up and coming zombie apocalypse. Which I have presented, in the previous post. And I will be expanding on it - in future posts. :wink:

Perhaps we can have, what I call - a “Tit for Tat dialogue” :question:

Which just says that communistic, capitalistic and socialistic systems - can all allow competition, making money and becoming rich. Without the need, to change the particular system.

You are encouraged by me to present your opinions on Zombies or economic systems or anything else & i don’t care if you or anyone agree with me or not. We all seem to have this need to have our opinions validated by others but i’m aware of this and trying to get past it.
Again a communist system by definition doesn’t allow competition, so China & Germany are mixed systems with the private sectors being the area the creates new stuff. Most communist systems have evolved by necessity to be blended systems of communism and capitalism like Vietnam,China & Russia but there are still relics left like Cuba and North Korea. Venezeula & Bolivia seem to be solidly socialistic.

Sounds good to me, Steve. Folks need to know, what can trigger a zombie apocalypse. And I have just started, to outline my ideas and thoughts. :smiley:

As a public service, to our forum readers. I present this article for reflection.

How To Survive A Real ‘Walking Dead’ Zombie Apocalypse

Let me quote an interesting segment - from the article:

So there are alternative scientific theories, as to how a zombie apocalypse can start. Which might compete, with my voodoo priest theory. But I can tie all this in, with our discussions - regarding our current, political climate forum thread.

And let me share this article today, from the Patheos evangelical newsletter:

What Should Christians Think about Satan, Demons, and Zombies?

Please. This is important! Watch the 15 minute video - by the seminary trained minister. :exclamation:

Let me quote a bit - from the accompanying article

Missiles in america
Deep down in the ground
They’re pointing straight at russia
They’re pointing all around
A small red button gently pressed
Will set those missiles free
And when they land with one big bang
The end of you and me
America leaders - who’ll start the war
Soviet leaders - who’ll start the war
There’s missiles in the u.s.s.r
Pointing straight at you
Aimed at the united states of america
Aimed at britain too
A small red button gently pressed
Will set those missiles free
And when they land with one big bang
No hope for you and me
America leaders - who’ll start the war
Soviet leaders - who’ll start the war
American leaders
Who’ll start the war
Who’ll be a cowboy
What’s the missiles for

So there are alternative scientific theories, as to how a zombie apocalypse can start. Which might compete, with my voodoo priest theory.

Competition is good as it brings out the best in us. From my experience Zombies tend to be Capitalists as they eat up the competition! :unamused:

The only downside to your ZA obsession is that we have a forum with hundred of gifs and pictures of rotting human corpses being cannibals, or slo-mo vids of brains coming out the back of heads. And plenty of blood. Really attractive. I so can’t wait for more. Not.

If you enjoy this sort of thing - I mean, you really enjoy it - that’s fine, maybe it’s becoming the ‘new normal’?

BUT - even if you find my posts offensive - a) you don’t have to read them and b) you can easily forget them.

Zombie posts, which are offensive to me personally, you a) MUST see them and b)it’s very hard to forget them.

So for those reasons, pictures of gore will trump dialogue. That’s America in a nutshell, it seems.
No matter what I"ve written above, which will stick with you longer, what I wrote, or this:?

I’m not into it myself Dave. I use to be but I’ve grown spiritually. I just though Randy would like the videos above.

No doubt!! :laughing:

<waiting for ‘Tat’>

I think the world’s obsession with zombies, it that we haven’t come to grips with death. Zombies seem to live in that twilight, between life and death. Actually, when I try to get service at stores, etc…Some of the staff, are as “lively” as zombies. As far as zombie gory stuff goes, it’s just Hollywood makeup, theatrics and… camera and computer creations…In other words, it’s just “Hollywood make believe” - or is it???

And I don’t think I’ve ever shown zombies having lunch - via GIF images. Unless they were “cartoon” zombies. Which are not even “Hollywood make believe zombies” - right?

Just a comment here, David. Some folks are visual. Some are audio. Some like to read. Pictures, images, videos, etc. - capture our attention. It’s a principle of copywriting and marketing. Don’t you find certain ads you “love” to watch? Like the Geico commercials, for example? I’m using the same principles here - on this forum.

See Geico youtu.be/KzjC2WEF6f0 and youtu.be/7OIEFo2axGE

Yes, Michael. I enjoy the videos you share. :smiley:

Let’s now end - with a famous quote - to reflect upon. :smiley:

This zombie is singing this Fats Domino song: youtu.be/Y29RZpHnkq8 :laughing:

Part And Parcel
OCTOBER 31, 2017 – 7:15 PM
A Muslim terrorist mowed in a rented truck mowed down pedestrians in New York today, killing eight people. At a news conference, Governor Cuomo assured us that the killer was a “lone wolf”, and that there was no evidence of a “wider plot”.

Rubbish. The “wider plot” has been in effect for fourteen centuries. It continues unabated today, and this man was part of it — as the next one will be, and the next, and the next.

Meanwhile, the Mayor announced that we will go forward “stronger than ever”. Stronger than ever, that is, with more barricades, security checkpoints, travel restrictions, militarized police, and ubiquitous surveillance.

Bleed, rinse, repeat. This is the future we have chosen.

Once again, I will say the Obvious Thing:

Allowing mass Muslim immigration is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can do. - MP

When someone hates you and wants to kill you, you have to keep them out. There are those who are coming into western nations because it is easy and because they feel they are called to jihad.

At the same time many of the Muslim faith are wanting to come to western countries for a better life. Though it will remain to be seen if Muslims are going the way of Christians and will be open to maybe re thinking their fundamental beliefs.

Dave said,

And I agree. There needs to be a very serious vetting structure in place. Or these kinds (what you talk about that happened tonight) will continue to happen.

As a side note, there are many different radical groups who are targeting factions of society and using technology to reach people right here in our own country :imp:

So true.

Actually, Zombies - when acting in a herd - can be considered a “radicalized” group.

And let me share this article I’ve share previously, from the Patheos evangelical newsletter:

What Should Christians Think about Satan, Demons, and Zombies?

Please. This is important! Watch the 15 minute video - by the seminary trained minister. :exclamation:

Let me quote a bit - from the accompanying article

P.S. Some folks here might not like the “Hollywood make-believe”, zombie GIF images. So if I can substitute a “cartoon” variation instead, I will do so. :laughing:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/plantsvszombies/images/c/c8/Zombiedance2.gif/revision/latest?cb=20150625181857

Just a footnote here. I get all GIF images, from a Google keyword search. And I insure the images, are geared to a GP audience. Same as I do, when I post things - on social media. If any of my images, are consider R-rated… Please point out the image to me. I don’t think zombies having lunch, are suitable images - for a GP audience. But folks dressed as zombies - via Hollywood make-up artistry - are considered suitable. Sometimes, it’s hard to balance - between images and text. And so folks won’t get locked into GIF images, I’ll “stir it up” (see song youtu.be/S3UqvWk8-uw). Meaning sometimes I’ll use a GIF…sometimes a cartoon…and sometimes a still image. All honoring the high standards…of the Russian Orthodox, Holy Fools tradition. :smiley:

Well, I’ve already gotten a complaint from someone who missed the point of you posting the gif.

That said, now that I have provided documentation that you’ve made your point, you can remove it now, thx.

I think Cindy is keeping track of this thread, but if anyone is putting up R-rated gifs or images, I recommend you think several times about it before doing so. I’ll tend to side with people complaining about their presence on this forum; I suspect the other ad/mods will, too.

(Edited to add: I understand the point Dave was trying to make, and I’m not warning or even criticizing him personally. I’m only staking out an admin position since the topic has come up.)

Done. No problem.