i don’t know how i could’ve been more polite! i just suggest you read it again. i am definitely not infallible, and many many things are unclear to me. but sometimes i reread something and it makes sense.
a) you’ve suggested that we are saying that it’s unimportant for people to be discipled…and that sin is OK and let’s all be happy
b) we’ve said that isn’t the case…but discipleship must come from a place of love…and if someone hasn’t experienced grace, how can they be discipled? you can’t disciple an atheist, for example, until he accepts the grace.
so…where is your problem with what’s been said?
what isn’t clear to me is why you have any issue with what people are telling you? it’s fine to question and debate…but this is getting ludicrous.